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Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 9:27 pm
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No, it recognizes the cable just fine. I've flashed my car numerous times using a Tactrix OpenPort 1.3 and EcuFlash under OS 10.5

AH, maybe that's my problem, cuz I just dropped the $190 on the full set of cables and connectors from Tactrix, only to have me stare at them and my screen like a cow looks at an oncoming train.
I got the 2.0 cable, thinking 'hey, this is the most s***' but NOOOOOOO


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Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 9:29 pm
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Other people have made the 2.0 work as well.

Who? Where? I've been searching online for 2 days straight. I'm sure there is a way, but I am A) not smart enough and B) not willing to tear into folders, files, the guts of the OS software coding just to get the cable to work if I'm lucky. I wish they would figure out the Mac OS drivers already..it would push a lot of people who are on the fence about Opensource tuning over to our side! Hell, I'd even PAY for Mac OS support..


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Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 9:38 am
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Wow, I'm bumping a 3 year old thread and still there is no Mac support. Pathetic.
Pathetic that a FREE program that people have to devote there own spare time to isn't doing what you want?Buy a PC then.Seriously,nothing wrong with people wanting different features but when you say it like that it makes you sound like a spoiled brat.

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Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 2:03 pm
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Wow, I'm bumping a 3 year old thread and still there is no Mac support. Pathetic.
Pathetic that a FREE program that people have to devote there own spare time to isn't doing what you want?Buy a PC then.Seriously,nothing wrong with people wanting different features but when you say it like that it makes you sound like a spoiled brat.

It's not just me Jack-ass, it's a lot of people who would love some Mac OS support. Are we all spoiled brats? No. Do we know how to type and spell correctly though? Yes. Why is it completely wrong of me to suggest that in 3 years time no one has come up with an answer? Oh wait, I'm sorry, I'm a spoiled brat because I'm a f*** consumer with an opinion! Like I said, the second someone comes out with Mac OS support, I'll be gladly PAYING for it. You have no idea how irate I am the last few days that I sold my Accessport and have been trying to flash a simple XPT map for 3 days with no success, running WinBLOWS on my Mac. That's like putting a Honda engine in a BMW. That's like trying to run a Mercedes with a Gameboy.


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Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 2:16 pm
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Wow, I'm bumping a 3 year old thread and still there is no Mac support. Pathetic.
Pathetic that a FREE program that people have to devote there own spare time to isn't doing what you want?Buy a PC then.Seriously,nothing wrong with people wanting different features but when you say it like that it makes you sound like a spoiled brat.

It's not just me Jack-ass, it's a lot of people who would love some Mac OS support. Are we all spoiled brats? No. Do we know how to type and spell correctly though? Yes. Why is it completely wrong of me to suggest that in 3 years time no one has come up with an answer? Oh wait, I'm sorry, I'm a spoiled brat because I'm a f*** consumer with an opinion! Like I said, the second someone comes out with Mac OS support, I'll be gladly PAYING for it. You have no idea how irate I am the last few days that I sold my Accessport and have been trying to flash a simple XPT map for 3 days with no success, running WinBLOWS on my Mac. That's like putting a Honda engine in a BMW. That's like trying to run a Mercedes with a Gameboy.

Everyone knows how great it would be to get support on OS X. No one who actually develops RomRaider uses it or has the resources to develop it outside of their current commitments. This is a free, non-commercial project..if you want someone to add OS X support, find someone who has the skills and give them enough money to make it happen. But don't call the lack of support 'pathetic' when you can't even flash a map onto your car. I talked my girlfriend through the process over the phone cold-turkey Trust me bud, people are working on it as resources allow, so be patient and constructive. But if the resources don't exist, the development won't happen.
Frankly, if you can't figure out how to read/write/edit ROM files under Windows after 3 days with all of the resources of this website and openecu.org, you likely shouldn't be tuning your own car with the OpenECU and open source tool kit. Find a friend and get the basics down first.
If you want to constructively assist the process, start up a Bounty/Reward thread with an offer and your requirements for payment. Otherwise, it will fall into their priority queue where they see fit..right after fixing RomRaider bugs under Windows, creating new definition files, and this little inconvenience called a paying career.

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Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 2:33 pm
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Enough with the name calling. Keep it civil. Only warning.
If you are having problems flashing a map, that has nothing to do with RomRaider whatsoever as RomRaider has no flashing capability regardless of OS.
RomRaider is FREE software developed by those with the necessary skills and knowledge willing to work on it in their FREE time for FREE. Right now, we only have one primary java developer and another dude that contributes from time to time. I don't believe either of them works with MACs on a regular basis. Regardless, there should be no expectation of any specific new features in the future, no matter how bad you want it or how bad you perceive others to want it. The entire project could die out tomorrow if the current developers decided to quit working on it (which is certainly their right).


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Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 2:38 pm
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Everyone knows how great it would be to get support on OS X. No one who actually develops RomRaider uses it or has the resources to develop it outside of their current commitments. Is it really THAT hard of a concept for you to understand? This is a free, non-commercial project..if you want someone to add OS X support, find someone who has the skills and give them enough money to make it happen. Or call the lack of support 'pathetic' when you can't even flash a map onto your car. I talked my girlfriend through the process over the phone cold-turkey.
Frankly, if you can't figure out how to read/write/edit ROM files under Windows after 3 days with all of the resources of this website and openecu.org, you likely shouldn't be tuning your own car with the OpenECU and open source tool kit. It's not the software, it's you. Find a friend and get the basics down.
If you want to constructively assist the process, start up a Bounty/Reward thread with an offer and your requirements for payment. Otherwise, it will fall into their priority queue where they see fit..right after fixing RomRaider bugs under Windows, creating new definition files, and this little inconvenience called a paying career.

You know, I was just about to write back in a very respectful manner to our conversation on this topic on another thread and agree with you that I would love to help out in any way I could. But now you've gone and pissed me off
Was your girlfriend running a Mac with Windows on top of it?
I was able to successfully read and write my ECU with ECUflash last week - I'm not an idiot thank you very much. I know you probably think it's user error, but perhaps it's a faulty flavor of Windows that I have? Wow wouldn't that be a first It worked fine under Parallels last week, then it crapped out. Now I'm going to try it under VMware Fusion. If that fails, I guess I'll try Boot Camp. If THAT fails, looks like I'll be spending that $300 I supposedly saved by selling my Accessport on an HP Mini or something. That'll make you PC lovers happy, won't it? Then I'll stop bitching about a lack of Mac support because I'll just be joining you! Maybe we can all swap spyware/viruses/malware together? That would be so fun! Gosh it's so wonderful to think that I am flashing my car with a less stable OS..frightening really - what if you get the blue screen of death during a flash? Oh dear lord say it ain't so!
So, no, I am not an idiot. I actually took Operating Systems, Multimedia, and Networking Systems my first year of college. That originally was my major, and my passion was computers. Maybe I've become lazy since going over to a Mac, since I don't have to constantly babysit the OS? Off topic, I was looking around for a defrag program for Mac OS yesterday and was hard pressed to find one. yes, there are some, but as a general rule of thumb the Mac OS doesn't need defragging like Windows. Why? Because Mac OS takes care of file defragmentation in the background. I don't want to get into an OS war here though.. but wouldn't you rather have that than a 'Maximize Window' button?
Lastly, am I out of place to complain about no Mac OS support? Maybe. People sure found the time to write software and code for it to work on the Linux platform, and Linux really isn't that much different of an OS than Mac's OSX.. in fact, the Linux version of RomRaider works on my Mac. Weird! But, there are no drivers/no support for the Tactrix cable 2.0 that I just bought for my Mac.. so that helps me not.
Alas, I digress, I do want to help out in any way I can. I shall go check out where I could be of some assistance to the rogue developer who wants to offer some Mac support. After all, you know, Macs aren't really that hard to come by..everyone other person I know has one, so I don't know why the availability scarcity argument is so prevalent to you. Then again, maybe I'm just a retarded, unemployed (thanks economy!) computer user to you.


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Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 2:51 pm
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You know, I was just about to write back in a very respectful manner to our conversation on this topic on another thread and agree with you that I would love to help out in any way I could. But now you've gone and pissed me off

Well I apologize for 'pissing you off' as you've also been quite blunt about your opinion, but if it has the effect of positively motiviating you to making your goal a reality within the resources that are available, then I got my point across
Was your girlfriend running a Mac with Windows on top of it?

White MacBook, Boot Camp, XP.
I was able to successfully read and write my ECU with ECUflash last week - I'm not an idiot thank you very much. I know you probably think it's user error, but perhaps it's a faulty flavor of Windows that I have? Wow wouldn't that be a first It worked fine under Parallels last week, then it crapped out. Now I'm going to try it under VMware Fusion. If that fails, I guess I'll try Boot Camp. If THAT fails, looks like I'll be spending that $300 I supposedly saved by selling my Accessport on an HP Mini or something. That'll make you PC lovers happy, won't it? Then I'll stop bitching about a lack of Mac support because I'll just be joining you! Maybe we can all swap spyware/viruses/malware together? That would be so fun! Gosh it's so wonderful to think that I am flashing my car with a less stable OS..frightening really - what if you get the blue screen of death during a flash? Oh dear lord say it ain't so!

OS X is not the target of spyware/viruses/malware because it is a speck on an elephant's ass in terms of overall global deployments. Same reason it's development lags behind in RomRaider and EcuFlash. Funny, ain't it?
Oh, and there is that little thing about Apple not worrying about fixing exploits when they are exposed:
http://blogs.computerworld.com/mac_os_x .. t_security
So, no, I am not an idiot. I actually took Operating Systems, Multimedia, and Networking Systems my first year of college. That originally was my major, and my passion was computers. Maybe I've become lazy since going over to a Mac, since I don't have to constantly babysit the OS? Off topic, I was looking around for a defrag program for Mac OS yesterday and was hard pressed to find one. yes, there are some, but as a general rule of thumb the Mac OS doesn't need defragging like Windows. Why? Because Mac OS takes care of file defragmentation in the background. I don't want to get into an OS war here though.. but wouldn't you rather have that than a 'Maximize Window' button?
Lastly, am I out of place to complain about no Mac OS support? Maybe. People sure found the time to write software and code for it to work on the Linux platform, and Linux really isn't that much different of an OS than Mac's OSX.. in fact, the Linux version of RomRaider works on my Mac. Weird! But, there are no drivers/no support for the Tactrix cable 2.0 that I just bought for my Mac.. so that helps me not.

Actually OS X defragments files upon write or re-write, however not all files are defragged (depending on conditions I can't recall) and free-space optimization suffers. Vista offers automatic background defragging.
There is a Linux version because one of the developers for it useful. If a developer finds RomRaider on OS X to be useful, it will be so.

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Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 2:56 pm
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Can we all agree that this would be a frustrating thing to see for 3 days straight:
??
I have tried reinstalling both Parallels, VMwareFusion, and the applicable Windows OS for each. Maybe I should try Linux next?
Funny thing is, it works great on my Mac:
but Tactrix 2.0 won't talk to my Mac OS..


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Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 3:08 pm
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Can we all agree that this would be a frustrating thing to see for 3 days straight:

Of course it's frustrating when things do not work as advertised. But under native Windows (no virtualization), EcuFlash and the reflashing process is very stable.
What does the log file the dialog box mentions say?
But Tactrix 2.0 won't talk to my Mac OS..

All indications on the EcuFlash/OpenECU sites are that 2.0 on OS X support is a goal of Colby's. Given that his is a commercial venture, it will probably be the first to get full support.

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Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 4:24 pm
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OS X is not the target of spyware/viruses/malware because it is a speck on an elephant's ass in terms of overall global deployments. Same reason it's development lags behind in RomRaider and EcuFlash. Funny, ain't it?
Oh, and there is that little thing about Apple not worrying about fixing exploits when they are exposed:
http://blogs.computerworld.com/mac_os_x .. t_security

Indeed, and wasn't there that issue a few months back where they actually had one of the first viruses for a Mac? It was because someone intentionally designed one or something and put it in a package of iLife or some Apple program that people were illegally downloading via some Torrent program? I'm not saying Macs are bulletproof, but like you pointed out, they're less used so they get to be a little more lax on their security sorta, because they don't have to deal with a lot of threats that the Windows OS does.
Found a cool article I thought we'd both enjoy:
Olivier Prud’homme decided to respond, at length, to my post on five ways Windows Vista is better than Mac OS X. The operating system wars will never subside, but if we could just stop talking in circles for one moment - maybe we could learn a thing or two about the OSes we choose not to use? Instead of basing opinions on assumptions or second-hand experiences, perhaps we’d be better served in trying different operating systems ourselves. No matter, the following message is completely unedited - so any mistakes made are that of the original author, Olivier. What are your thoughts?
I’ve been watching a few of your videos here and there on YouTube (ever since you talked about going BACK to XP from Vista, actually… a long time ago) and the one where you reply to the article of “Five Ways Vista is better than OS X” really got my attention.
I guess you could classify me as one of those Mac users that you despise. “Fanboys”, I suppose… heck, my email address is a @mac address for crying out loud. But please, hear me out. I’ve actually got a few points where I believe Vista is better than OS X (near the end).
I’ve been a Mac user for as long as I can remember and I’ve been using PCs for almost just as long. My blood boils every single time there’s a discussion about Windows. Considering that this is the information age, it happens quite often. Why am I angry? Why am I so agitated?
It’s mainly because throughout all my life, day after day, I have to deal with people that refuse to believe that a Macintosh might actually be a decent machine. I’m talking about since 5th grade, here. Being ridiculed merely because of the computer I was using at home. It may sound ridiculous, but think about it for a second. When you’re growing up as a kid, being accepted is a huge deal. Some people just have to brag about their stuff and they do it by making fun of other people. I remember asking one of the PC geeks in my school about why that is and I’ll never forget his answer: “Windows is great. I can fix almost any issues and that makes me feel smart.”
I’ve grown into the man that I am today, constantly fighting this STUPID operating system war that never seems to end.
I deal with this kind of stuff every day; even today. A friend of mine just got a new iMac a couple of months ago and he acts like it’s new and amazing… I’ve known him for almost 15 years and he was one of the many that ridiculed me all these years ago. He just wouldn’t accept the Mac as a serious computer… a lot of people don’t. I suppose they associate it with the fact that Macs are easy to use and therefore aren’t as complex as “real” computers should.
We’re in the year 2009 and people still tolerate computers breaking down.
As a computing experience, the Mac hasn’t changed ONE BIT. However, now the Mac is suddenly popular and “acceptable”. I’m tired of saying “I’ve told you so”.
Thinking back, I guess I’m not pompous… I’m just really, extremely bitter. I’m sure others feel the same way too.
I am a power user… and just like you’ve said in previous videos, power users need to open their minds and use all sorts of computing technology.
I’ve shown my interest in the Xbox 360. A gaming system that I have yet to own and most likely never will due to the un-fixable “red ring of death” issue plaguing the console. Typical of Microsoft, if you ask me but I digress.
When Windows Vista was announced, I was genuinely excited. People would talk about all that techno mumbo jumbo that was “new” (I say it in quotes because half the time, they’re features that I’ve seen two to even ten years ago on the mac - another thing that annoys me to no end) and I’ve only retained two key features: “Windows Live” and “the colour system”.
The colour system was something I found interesting as a consumer. I don’t know if the feature actually has a name or not, but it was something that Microsoft announced where Windows Vista would scan your computer and give you a colour based on your hardware. Whenever you would buy a software, instead of looking through a list of system requirements on the box, all you’d have to do is check the colour code and see if it’s supported on your machine. For me, it was a sign that Microsoft actually tried to make things easier for the average consumer… yet, I’ve never seen the colour code on any box.
The Windows Live was a huge disappointed as well. To me, it was a sign that Microsoft was taking care of PC gamers by intertwining XBox Live with Windows. How awesome would that be? I mean, for the general consumer that might not mean much but gaming has always been something mentioned during Mac vs Windows arguments. Having more software (or games) doesn’t make one operating system better than the other, but features like Windows Live and XBox Live would’ve been a nudge in the right direction to build a very strong and UNIQUE community.
None of the features that I thought were important in making the system unique or remotely appealing ever got to fruition.
Anyways, I want to go back to your video discussing about the “five ways Vista is better than OS X” and I actually have an answer for you… coming from an avid Mac user.
This applies to Windows XP as well as Vista: DirectX. I absolutely HATE DirectX but I know performance when I see it. I’ve seen 3D software where a Windows and Mac version would be built simultaneously and even in those circumstances (rare as they might be), the Windows version runs faster even on the same hardware (bootcamp). Yes, it is just a matter of getting the programmers to write more optimized code for the mac so you can’t really blame the OS for that but between OpenGL and DirectX, DirectX seems easier to code and, therefore, is a much more appealing feature that is Windows exclusive.
As a 3D artist and gamer, this is a big deal.
I’d write more, but it’s 5am here and I doubt that I would be any coherent (assuming that I am to begin with). If you want to share any thoughts, ideas or if you have any questions, don’t hesitate to give me a shout.

Actually OS X defragments files upon write or re-write, however not all files are defragged (depending on conditions I can't recall) and free-space optimization suffers. Vista offers automatic background defragging.

Correct, OS X defrags upon startup/shutdown or something, I forget. Vista's version is a bit more choppy though, requiring not only more resources like processor and RAM speed, but also some file fragmentation occurs as a part of Vista's defrag system. And even when you go into the disk utility feature that allows to defrag normally as you might on XP for example, there's no progress bar, no indication of elapsed time, or remaining time. There's no information on how fragmented the disc is, what files are fragmented, or options to exclude some files from the defragmentation process.
What do you think is a more stable platform to run RomRaider and ECUflash, just curious.. XP, Vista, or perhaps some flavor of Linux? I'm debating which to burn to CD and put into Boot Camp.


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Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 4:35 pm
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What does the log file the dialog box mentions say?

It always says something like this:
[17:10:19.406] EcuFlash Version 1.41.2483
[17:10:19.406] OS Version Windows Vista
[17:10:19.406] Qt Version 4.4.0
[17:10:19.421] 26 memory models read.
[17:10:19.421] scanning for metadata models in C:/Program Files/OpenECU/EcuFlash/rommetadata
[17:10:19.531] 68 ROM metadata models scanned.
[17:10:19.531] checksum module 'subarudbw' loaded.
[17:10:19.531] checksum module 'mitsucan' loaded.
[17:10:19.531] flashing tool 'wrx02' loaded.
[17:10:19.531] flashing tool 'wrx04' loaded.
[17:10:19.531] flashing tool 'sti04' loaded.
[17:10:19.531] flashing tool 'sti05' loaded.
[17:10:19.531] flashing tool 'mitsukernel' loaded.
[17:10:19.531] flashing tool 'mitsukernelocp' loaded.
[17:10:19.531] flashing tool 'mitsubootloader' loaded.
[17:10:19.531] flashing tool 'shbootmode' loaded.
[17:10:19.531] flashing tool 'shaudmode' loaded.
[17:10:19.531] flashing tool 'subarucan' loaded.
[17:10:19.531] flashing tool 'mitsucan' loaded.


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Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 4:41 pm
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Indeed, and wasn't there that issue a few months back where they actually had one of the first viruses for a Mac? It was because someone intentionally designed one or something and put it in a package of iLife or some Apple program that people were illegally downloading via some Torrent program? I'm not saying Macs are bulletproof, but like you pointed out, they're less used so they get to be a little more lax on their security sorta, because they don't have to deal with a lot of threats that the Windows OS does.

I believe it was a full-on OS X botnet. And yeah, it was from people downloading a tainted copy of iLife '09 when it came out. But it proved that the danger is very real -- shield people from reality with some quaint 'you're all safe, no need to worry about viruses on Macs' ads then watch the mass hysteria when all of those people are left helpless. All it will take is the first widespread OS X exploit to bury Apple support with panic'd phonecalls and infected machines waiting for repair.
What do you think is a more stable platform to run RomRaider and ECUflash, just curious.. XP, Vista, or perhaps some flavor of Linux? I'm debating which to burn to CD and put into Boot Camp.

I prefer the battle-tested and KISS methods, which for me is XP on a Dell Mini 12. It just works. It's not the sx, and my quick launch icons don't dance while the programs load, but it works for what I need it to, which is reliable flashing and tuning and working integration with Innovate Motorsports logging products. I use Vista on my full-featured desktop and at this point would trust it for tuning purposes but my netbook doesn't have the horsepower to do it.

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Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 4:43 pm
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FWIW, that full-featured Vista desktop has an Apple Keyboard attached and I've got an iPhone 3G in my pocket

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